A Roomful Of Elephant Calls
Nov. 30th, 2013 11:59 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
A call to
skyecaptain,
freakytigger,
petronia, and anyone else who inhabits the worlds where Rockwrite and anime-and-videogame and Fanfic worlds overlap. I claimed, while conversing with
arbitrary_greay on the wallpaper-music-as-the-elephant-in-the-center-of-the-living-room thread, that:
And I'm linking Bob Dylan — not as an example of BGM but 'cause I assume "Ballad Of A Thin Man" is what first shot the words "freak" and "geek" into the culture as positives. 1965:
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Geekdom and video games and anime have enough cachet that the music that attaches to them is not going to end up in the category "We So Don't Pay Attention To This Stuff That We're Actually Hearing Quite A Lot Of That We Don't Even Notice That We Don't Write About It" in the way that AC does, but rather'll get written about by critics more and more as time goes on.I can't say I'm the one to make the argument, though, so I hope you all might care to comment, on this or on what AG says.
And I'm linking Bob Dylan — not as an example of BGM but 'cause I assume "Ballad Of A Thin Man" is what first shot the words "freak" and "geek" into the culture as positives. 1965:
http://vimeo.com/52383325
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Date: 2013-12-07 01:10 pm (UTC)But I'll note first that it wasn't Nitsuh who asked a question explicitly, it was you, on this thread, a few days ago: "Why [does] this game get played?" And second, it's the sort of question I've been asking and answering for 45 years, scores of times, maybe hundreds. And I'll bet that right now you yourself could map out an answer to the question in about 200 words. I don't think the thread we're on right now should become a vehicle for me to rewrite "Death Rock 2000" and "The Death Of The Cool" etc. etc. etc. But, for instance, see my response to John Wójtowicz back in WMS #4, which I reprinted in Real Punks (chapter 17), where I quote LeRoi Jones* actually using the word "one-upmanship":
(Obv. "my" answers draw on other people's, e.g., Jones', Lester Bangs', Lou Reed's. And my "answers" won't speak for every aspect of everyone's participation in those games Nitsuh decries, but they do at least draw a picture of the psychosocial background within which the supposed one-upmanship makes sense.)
So I simply don't buy your contention that rockwrite asks explicit questions that it never answers. A lot of people botch the questions, but the ones who ask 'em right also give pretty good answers. There aren't enough of us, and most social analysis within rockwrite doesn't get much beyond posturing. But not all social analysis, all the time. (And I've not been keeping up with Nitsuh, but who's to say he hasn't returned more deeply to the subject he fumbled on his Tumblr?)
*Don't know whether he prefers having his old work cited as by LeRoi Jones or Amiri Baraka; one of my editors suggested that it was the former, so that's what I went with.