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William Bowers (in reference to Tinysong and Twisten.fm, "which combine to crawl Twitter for music")(Puritan Blister #43 Twisten to Yr Heart): Isn't it a tad more populist/democratic than Hype Machine even, because your users are mostly "folks," right, which is not to give bloggers too much status/esteem, but some of 'em are getting royalty-esque. Not in the sense of money-royalties, but 'tude, maybe?

My question here is, what does Bowers* mean by "populist/democratic"? Is what the populace pays attention to inherently populist/democratic simply because the populace pays attention to it? One could argue that Twisten gets rid of traditional gatekeepers, going straight to the people for its information.** But one could also then argue that the Twisten results become gatekeepers themselves. My buzzword here is "cumulative advantage," which just means that that which is somewhat popular has a huge leg up in becoming more popular, and this is merely because it's popular (above and beyond its inherent appeal), and that which is little-known remains little-known. So the more information that flows about how much people listen, the less diverse the listening will get over space and time. As the world gets more cosmopolitan, it gets less diverse, even if individually we become more aware of the diversity that does exist. - I'm not committing myself to what I just said, by the way. I'm making arguments, creating hypotheses.

Democracy doesn't just mean "majority rules," it also depends on diversity, depends on there being diverse people with diverse opinions; otherwise we wouldn't need to vote, we could just poll a single individual and let those results decide for everybody. And its rationale is that, with access to the diversity of ideas (rather than just ideas coming from the top down), the people get to debate and choose which ideas are best, and they get to experiment with new ideas. So the flow of information is critical to democracy, since it's critical that diverse ideas be heard; but also, owing to cumulative advantage, the flow of information cuts down on diversity. (Same caveat as before about not altogether committing myself to this argument.)

*If you click the link, you'll see that Bowers is actually VERY skeptical about the benefits of new media.

**And I'd hypothesize that The People chose to use gatekeepers, and chose their gatekeepers, in the first place.

h/t [livejournal.com profile] freakytigger

Date: 2009-05-01 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] edgeofwhatever.livejournal.com
I hate these kinds of articles, because they invariably take a decent point and then ruin it by being stupid and hysterical. Does anyone in the actual world -- anyone outside of columnists writing columns about Twitter -- actually think that 140-character tweets will become our only form of writing? That people will stop composing essays and speeches and novels now that they've discovered the pleasure of 140 characters? That the owners of Twitter will take over the world and force us to engage in a 140 Characters' Hate, and the Thought Police will imprison anyone with a thought more than 140 characters long. NO THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN YOU STUPID STUPID FUCK JESUS. LOGIC FAIL. I HATE YOU.

Anyway, this is interesting, because I've been, like, Jawbreaker sucking on this idea that Twitter lets you see what "everyone" is thinking about music. Because before Twitter, it was difficult to find out what lots of people were saying about a given artist/album/performance (particularly a performance) -- any time a large group of people congregated to talk about an artist/album/performance, it was a self-selecting community: fans, haters, writers/commenters at Pitchfork, writers/commenters at Poptimists.

Twitter is not a self-selecting community, at least not in terms of musical taste (and as it grows, it ceases to be self-selecting in any terms) -- so when I go to http://search.twitter.com and type in, say, "demi lovato," I don't see what fans are saying about Demi Lovato, or what haters are saying about Demi Lovato, or what indie or pop fans are saying about Demi Lovato. I see what "everyone" is saying about Demi Lovato.

Twitter can also function as a de facto message board / community for artists who aren't popular enough to have an actual message board / community, thanks to that search feature -- and in that way, it actually works against cumulative advantage. Because cumulative advantage really only works if an artist's visibility is directly proportional to its popularity, and if people have no way of making a less popular artist more visible (to themselves). You may see more mentions of a more popular artist on your Twitter, but you can still seek out mentions of a less popular artist -- and when you do, you can respond to those mentions, and others can respond to your responses, and soon there may be as many mentions of the less popular artist as there were of the more popular artist.

And, okay, in trying to take this argument to its logical conclusion, I realize I have a problem with this: The flow of information is critical to democracy, since it's critical that diverse ideas be heard; but also, owing to cumulative advantage, the flow of information cuts down on diversity.

This only works if we assume that no new ideas will ever enter the system -- that this is Information Idol, and we will stop talking about other ideas one by one, until the final idea is crowned the winner.

Date: 2009-05-01 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] edgeofwhatever.livejournal.com
Also, from the Bowers article:

The "status" update that was the lamest and most indulgent element of MySpace is the most abused feature of Facebook, and such mundane-to-desperate broadcasts are almost Twitter's entire raison d'etre.

Er, is this even correct, historically speaking? I seem to recall the MySpace status update being implemented as a reaction to Facebook stealing MySpace's thunder; it was regarded as lame and indulgent precisely because it was implemented as a reaction to Facebook stealing MySpace's thunder. I guess he isn't explicitly saying that MySpace had a lame thing, and Facebook made that lame thing important, and Twitter made that lame thing everything, but that seems to be what he's implying. (He also neglects to mention that much of the abuse of the Facebook status update is a consequence of Twitter -- people now ship their tweets to their Facebook status, so that their Facebook status gets updated nine billion times each day, with shit you already read as a follower of their Twitter -- and that the Facebook status [and Facebook itself] has now become lame in the same way that the MySpace status [and MySpace itself] was lame: changes have been implemented as a result of Twitter stealing Facebook's thunder. That was a very long sentence. I'm sorry.)

Date: 2009-05-02 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skyecaptain.livejournal.com
See, on Twitter you would have had to find a way to fit that simple concept into 140 characters. This has been the biggest benefit of Twitter for me. But you already knew that if you read my Tumblr. (Sigh, why can't some of these things just cease to exist so I could have like ONE THING again!!!!!)

Date: 2009-05-02 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] edgeofwhatever.livejournal.com
I know. I have TOO MUCH INTERNET.

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