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Thought on my mind today, as the stock market plummets another five percent and credit freezes up again: in 1933 "race records" pretty much disappeared, as its audience got too poor to buy. I don't yet expect a depression, and I know that r&b and hip-hop travel beyond demographics, and its core demographic reaches into the middle class. But I do wonder what genres will be hit hardest by the slowdown.

Taylor Swift "White Horse": A gorgeous purr of sadness in her throat, sudden snaps of the whip from her tongue. Gentle guitar chords at the start have the same quietly hair-rasing effect. The chorus can't maintain the mood, so the song loses itself, but the mood returns when the verse returns. TICK.

Guns N' Roses "Chinese Democracy": Dramatic chords to start, then an Axl squeal sampled from "Welcome To The Jungle," same dance rumble from the bass that was all over Appetite For Destruction 21 years ago, same subtle half-growl as in "It's So Easy." What's missing is any kind of release in the chorus; also missing is the high shriek with which Axl could have delivered it. Good song, exciting, even, but ought to have been far better. TICK.

Nickelback "If Today Was Your Last Day": Gremo? Grunge emo? Or would that term be redundant? Good tune, at least in the verse, and Chad's tonsillectomy gargle is less bothersome than on the track I hated on [livejournal.com profile] poptimists on Monday; but the deep sodden guitars sink these guys once again. NO TICK.

Jazmine Sullivan "Bust Your Windows": Man, another album I need to get to. Once again Jazmine's vocals overmatch her material, end up busting its chops even when she's stepping delicately. That's a drama to look forward to when I get the album: a bull of a voice dressed in a gown, trying not to rip the apparel. TICK.

T-Pain f. Ludacris "Chopped 'N' Skrewed": Mr. Autotune walks through a nondescript melody, while voice and beats are chopped and screwed to an annoying degree. Novelty number done wrong. NO TICK.

Date: 2008-11-21 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martinskidmore.livejournal.com
Isn't country generally a working class taste? That's the impression I have from thousands of miles away, anyway.

Date: 2008-11-21 11:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakytigger.livejournal.com
There was some chat about this kind of topic (the economics of pop, not the quality or otherwise of Taylor Swift alas) on the P4K message board - the decline in 'race records' in the 30s apparently led to a boom in black clubs and venues as they became the only transmission medium for the music - so spending on music shifted, and combined with spending on socialising/escapism, rather than crashed. But of course today 'going out' in whatever form - eating, shows, movies - is thought to be one of the first day-to-day discretionary cutbacks, and most consumers have in-home entertainment pipes that are free (TV if not internet). The record biz - in the sense of people selling physical artefacts - is already screwed, and the recession is likely to hit the concept that the music industry (including musicians sadly) can claw back revenues through shows, clubs etc.

http://aceterrier.com/?page_id=1033 - Speaking of 1933, I linked to this on FT a bit ago, though haven't had time to delve into it yet.

Date: 2008-11-21 12:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
Yeah - a (world music) record label owner who spoke at a Guardian lunch I went to recently said that the bottom has already completely fallen out of the live sector. Shows right now are sold out, because the tickets were bought 4 months ago, but shows for next year are selling on average something like 40% of what they'd be expected to sell, and many acts are being forced to cancel entire tours. Given that touring is basically the main matchstick still propping up the industry, it looks like everyone will be a bit fucked next year. Maybe we'll see more success through DIY, cost-effective channels?

On a nicer note, Frank is otm about Jazmine - as stunning as her voice is, I don't think she's quite learnt to use it in the right way all the time, and she can just blare and blare away when the song doesn't call for it. But this never detracts from the power of the song, and sometimes the overdone presentation is a bit disorientating, in a good way (eg 'Dream Big': most singers would have done this coquettishly or yearningly, but Jazmine blares away and ends up sounding appropriately massive). And of course it serves her amazingly well on the more emotionally raw tracks.

Date: 2008-11-21 12:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexmacpherson.livejournal.com
also NB that Beyonce review you linked to on your tumblr is DREADFUL and made me ANGRY (temporarily)!!

Date: 2008-11-21 12:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katstevens.livejournal.com
Things I learned from watching Never Mind The Buzzcocks last night:

- I want to marry Alesha Dixon
- Beyonce plays Connect 4!

Date: 2008-11-21 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] edgeofwhatever.livejournal.com
I'm guessing it may be more demographic-related than economy-related: Taylor and the JoBros both appeal mostly to tweens and teens, who are accustomed to downloading individual tracks rather than buying whole albums and may be more apt to just keep downloading single songs as they hear them. (Also, and this is just conjecture on my part, they probably have pretty limited funds -- their parents probably only let them spend so much per week or month at the iTunes store, so they might be less likely to blow all that money one artist's album when they could buy several songs they already know and like by several artists they already know and like.) Have any artists without ties to Disney seen the same individual track action?

Date: 2008-11-21 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chuckeddy.livejournal.com
Lots I'd talk about here (and in the previous DDR thread) if I had more time and wasn't on constant deadline and baby duty (i.e.: I'm not so sure music listened to by "working class" fans would be hardest hit by an economic downturn in the first place, but if so, you might want to look at the differential between sales and expendable income {country sales have been slipping for the past couple years, and hip-hip sales have been plummetting drastically long before there was economic crisis; post-high-schoolers listening to metal and indie-rock -- both of which have still been comparatively selling okay in the past couple years, as I recall, notably physical product in metal's case -- will probably be hurt even more than most demographics in the job market as older people pick up service jobs that traditionally went to younger people {but that's already been happening right?}; the Latin market, which has still yet to adapt to the digital market, seems like it could be hit hard too {though again it's already been hurting}; I think Frank's generalizations about country music lyrics are oversimplified as usual {i.e., yeah, lots of country songs do what he says, but lots don't, too}; I'm still basically bored and pissed off by Taylor Swift's hookless new Lisa Loeb album though parts are starting to grow on me a little and I expect they'll do more so after I stop taking a break from it}; still have not consciously heard a single song off the new GnR album, which I'm sort of dreading, though I'll listen to it if a copy falls into my lap. May get around to checking out the title track on youtube in the next few days, or maybe I won't.)

Taylor songs in the current Hot 100 are below. Yep, six debuts ("White Horse" is the week's "Hot Shot Debut.") Really don't see how this phenomenon has *anything* to do with the economic downturn, though; seems to me it's just how teen pop has been marketed at least since *High School Musical,* which I believe is when this sort of download deluge started. Happened with Hannah/Miley, too, right? (And maybe with David Archetta or however you spell his name just a few weeks ago? I dunno, I was paying less attention then, I may be wrong about that.) Or maybe Taylor's deluge is differs in some way I'm not getting?


13 1
White Horse, Taylor Swift
N.Chapman,T.Swift (T.Swift,L.Rose ) Big Machine DIGITAL | 13
18 14 16 10 Love Story, Taylor Swift
N.Chapman,T.Swift (T.Swift ) Big Machine DIGITAL | 5
49 NEW 1 Forever & Always, Taylor Swift
N.Chapman,T.Swift (T.Swift ) Big Machine DIGITAL | 49
72 NEW 1 The Way I Loved You, Taylor Swift
N.Chapman,T.Swift (T.Swift,J.Rich ) Big Machine DIGITAL | 72
79 NEW 1 Fifteen, Taylor Swift
N.Chapman,T.Swift (T.Swift ) Big Machine DIGITAL | 79
87 NEW 1 Breathe, Taylor Swift
N.Chapman,T.Swift (T.Swift,C.Caillat ) Big Machine DIGITAL | 87
94 NEW 1 Hey Stephen, Taylor Swift
N.Chapman,T.Swift (T.Swift ) Big Machine DIGITAL | 94

Date: 2008-11-21 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chuckeddy.livejournal.com
And "hookless" is a hyperbole, obviously. There are a couple really good hooks. They just seem few and far between, and most of the album just really seems to be bigtime missing....*something* I can't quite put my finger on.

Date: 2008-11-21 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/xyzzzz__/
The government-funded corner of the music world, always cash-strapped in comparison with mainland Europe, will be hit really hard over here. That was already the case before the financial crisis as the Olympics was taking a lot of the money but now even more funds will have to be diverted as the private sector may not end up making as big a contribution. Many British composers in the 80s (whom I consider really great and all) had to move to Germany to have their work supported but as this is a global situation there won't be any hiding places.

I wonder if I'm gonna see a lot of music borne out of sheer anger as people might be denied opportunities/credit -- or if that's gonna be a lot more visible to everyone else via music? I suppose it will all depend upon how bad and for how long all of this lasts for. And again, as this is a global situation it should be easier to access rumbles of discontent from around the world.

Date: 2008-11-21 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chuckeddy.livejournal.com
Interestingly, I'd just compared Taylor's "The Best Day" to Lou Reed's "Perfect Day" on the ILX Rolling Country thread the other day. Still think Lou's is a whole lot better, though.

Date: 2008-11-21 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chuckeddy.livejournal.com
And I still kinda wish her "White Horse" said "If you wanna ride, you gotta ride the white horse" and "If you wanna be rich, you gotta be a bitch" and things like that.

Date: 2008-11-21 05:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chuckeddy.livejournal.com
Really??? I actually thought Lisa was more famous for her Sarah Palin glasses. (And her cat, maybe. Don't remember the dress at all.) (And actually, I only really know her one hit, "Stay," which I never liked. Which somehow hasn't stopped her from repeatedly come to mind when Taylor's album is on.)

Date: 2008-11-21 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chuckeddy.livejournal.com
"Coming to mind," that is.

(And actually, Taylor may well sound nothing like Lisa per se'. I guess the comparison is just indicative of my newfound nostalgia for the long-lost early '90s, when the kind of confessional music that teen girls maturing beyond pop hooks regularly make these days was rightly dismissed by *Radio On* people as "boring singer-songwriter alt-folk" or whatever. So who knows, maybe Taylor is way more Natalie Imbruglia instead.)

Date: 2008-11-21 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chuckeddy.livejournal.com
Hmmm...You may have me there actually. I'm certainly under the *impression* that ex-teenpoppers have been heading in a more confessional direction, but it might help if I come up with actual examples. (Veronicas go for more hooks and less confession on their second album, too, I guess.) Need to give this more thought....(But then, where does my impression come from? Maybe you're right; the hooks just aren't as good anymore. Not sure I agree with you, though, that Taylor's followup isn't a maturity move. It certainly sounds more singer-songwriterly and less bubblegummy to my ears; I kind understand how "less country and more pop" would be a smart marketing plan, and I also get what you've been saying about blatantly teen oriented lyrics I guess, but that doesn't mean the album *sounds* more teenage. It definitely doesn't. It sounds like a college girl with a creative writing notebook.)

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