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the further the problem was from the solver's expertise, the more likely they were to solve it

"If it could easily have been solved 'by people within the industry, it would have been,' he said."

(So the question here for me is what are the problems that I'm working on that people in my rock-critic and blog worlds are having trouble thinking about, and where do I find people from elsewhere who might be willing to think about those problems? E.g., my ideas on "social class," that we need to think about what social class is, and we need to think about it differently. For instance, I think Ashlee and Jessica Simpson belong to different social classes, but with the way class is generally defined, what I've just said would be considered nonsense.)

Date: 2008-07-22 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcatzilut.livejournal.com
Did you ever see my paper on Britney Spears and Goffman's Presentation of Self in Everyday Life? It doesn't exactly turn things into a class issue, but I think it approaches pop celebrity and class in a way that most people haven't yet. Maybe a step in the direction you're looking for.

Date: 2008-07-22 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] piratemoggy.livejournal.com
I've kept meaning to catch up on all your DDR stuff for months now, v. sorry that I haven't (I think 'when I've finished my diss, when I've moved house, when I've got a job...' and then this of course turns into another when) BUT I think that company is making the mistake of finding someone who can answer it, rather than forcing people who can't quite to try, which is really the way to form the most complete answer IMO. Although the point it makes about having an outsiders' perspective is no doubt a valid one.

Thinking re: your ideas of class: could it be said that instead of class, which is (traditionally/often) perceived as given to you and immobile could it be said you're talking about genre? After all, if our art has genres then there's no reason people can't; all the hybridising of, say, skater and fashion junkie, etc. would seem to fit more naturally (to me) with the idea of genre than of class, although I'll admit that's possibly to do with my own preconceptions, rather than anything else. The term genre sort of lets you straddle a couple, though and might explain the idea of people having several different personas in several different groups; the reserved office worker with their drug-hoover raver sideproject, etc.

Re: the Simpsons it could be said that they suffer somewhat, critically, from coming from the same "class" but different genres, although class still (wrongly) gets flagged as the relevant issue.

Idk. That just occurred to me and I thought it might be relevant.

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