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koganbotLatest column. I belatedly jump into the Sasha-Carl convo, though I guess my point was that the convo wasn't yet happening in their pieces. And I assert that the Backstreet Boys belong to the discussion.
The Rules Of The Game #22: Night doesn't work, day doesn't work
Not sure I connected my dots or made my points emphatically enough. In any event, when I start the paragraph "I had a lot of trouble getting traction from these two articles," I was no longer talking about "technical" problems but rather about how Sasha and Carl were flubbing their main tasks, which was to say what was actually going on with some of those indie bands and why it would matter whether or not they started using black idioms or expanding their social range, and Sasha didn't say which black idioms they ought to use, or why.
Also, you have to guess from this what I think the Backstreet Boys et al. are doing with their style, since I don't tell you.
At the end I'm vaguely suggesting reasons why a couple of indie performers are making the choices they do, but I extend my thoughts too little.
What indie performers are you guys listening to, and what do you think underlies their musical choices?
What Sasha and Carl point out is real, but they don't answer the question "So what?" What difference would it make if Arcade Fire put space in their music? Why shouldn't a bunch of indie guys choose to mumble?
If the potential of being compared to black sources is a block to indie guys effectively playing in the black idioms, why wasn't it a barrier to a bunch of ex-mouseketeers? Or why didn't it scare off liberal arts types like the Gang Of Four and Pussy Galore back in the day? For that matter, why isn't it a problem for emerging black artists, who are consistently being told they're getting it wrong in comparison to the Bronx standard, but seem not to give a shit?
EDIT: Here are links to all but three of my other Rules Of The Game columns (LVW's search results for "Rules of the Game"). Links for the other three (which for some reason didn't get "Rules Of The Game" in their titles), are here: #4, #5, and #8.
UPDATE: I've got all the links here now:
http://koganbot.livejournal.com/179531.html
The Rules Of The Game #22: Night doesn't work, day doesn't work
Not sure I connected my dots or made my points emphatically enough. In any event, when I start the paragraph "I had a lot of trouble getting traction from these two articles," I was no longer talking about "technical" problems but rather about how Sasha and Carl were flubbing their main tasks, which was to say what was actually going on with some of those indie bands and why it would matter whether or not they started using black idioms or expanding their social range, and Sasha didn't say which black idioms they ought to use, or why.
Also, you have to guess from this what I think the Backstreet Boys et al. are doing with their style, since I don't tell you.
At the end I'm vaguely suggesting reasons why a couple of indie performers are making the choices they do, but I extend my thoughts too little.
What indie performers are you guys listening to, and what do you think underlies their musical choices?
What Sasha and Carl point out is real, but they don't answer the question "So what?" What difference would it make if Arcade Fire put space in their music? Why shouldn't a bunch of indie guys choose to mumble?
If the potential of being compared to black sources is a block to indie guys effectively playing in the black idioms, why wasn't it a barrier to a bunch of ex-mouseketeers? Or why didn't it scare off liberal arts types like the Gang Of Four and Pussy Galore back in the day? For that matter, why isn't it a problem for emerging black artists, who are consistently being told they're getting it wrong in comparison to the Bronx standard, but seem not to give a shit?
EDIT: Here are links to all but three of my other Rules Of The Game columns (LVW's search results for "Rules of the Game"). Links for the other three (which for some reason didn't get "Rules Of The Game" in their titles), are here: #4, #5, and #8.
UPDATE: I've got all the links here now:
http://koganbot.livejournal.com/179531.html
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Date: 2007-11-03 02:37 pm (UTC)