Online Anonymity
Apr. 16th, 2009 09:12 amStrange post by hilzoy at Obsidian Wings where she says she'd always imagined that by posting under "hilzoy" she was indicating to her readers that that's how she'd like to be known on blogs, as opposed to being referred to by her real name. She gets a bit pissy at Slate for publishing her actual identity.*
Anyway, the strangeness isn't that she wants her blog identity to remain disconnected from her identity offline (though I wonder what right she thinks she has to anonymity if she's going to blog about stuff that's related to what she gets paid to teach and write about), but rather her assuming that her readers would take her use of a screen name as a signal that she's suppressing her real name and wants everyone to go along. That seems pretty naive, and also misunderstands Web practice - unless it's my corner of the Web that's strange. Nearly all the people I run into online post under screen names when they're on message boards or blogs, and I doubt that more than a few of them are doing so to conceal their offline identities. Rather, they're expressing themselves, just as they would by having more than one icon or by wearing different-colored socks on different days. Actually, using one's full name seems a bit odd, like referring to oneself as "Mister" while everyone else is using nicknames: the reasons I used my real name on ilX from the get-go are that I wanted to be better known and that there'd be a conflict of interest in my posting about music and rock criticism and other rock critics while concealing who I am. But as I said, most people who use screen names in my online worlds aren't doing so to suppress their identities. I often know their real names, and where I don't I could probably find out easily enough.
Yesterday I read Andrew Rosenthal in the NY Times saying "When I'm scanning comments (and I scan the comments on every Opinion section article that offers comment), I tend to read the ones with names attached and ignore the ones with screen names. I have a lot of interest in what John Krouskoff of New City has to say, and really none in what spatula187 (to make up one printable screen name) has to say." I realize there's a difference in posting at a high-profile place like the Times or YouTube or People etc. and posting on
poptimists, but my guess is still that most of the people who use screen names at those places are doing so out of the expressive habit, not for the anonymity (though no doubt some probably feel freer to act like douchebags than they would if they were using their real names).
*Of course, if you become better-known under your blog name, perhaps you're suppressing your actual identity when you use your given name.
Anyway, the strangeness isn't that she wants her blog identity to remain disconnected from her identity offline (though I wonder what right she thinks she has to anonymity if she's going to blog about stuff that's related to what she gets paid to teach and write about), but rather her assuming that her readers would take her use of a screen name as a signal that she's suppressing her real name and wants everyone to go along. That seems pretty naive, and also misunderstands Web practice - unless it's my corner of the Web that's strange. Nearly all the people I run into online post under screen names when they're on message boards or blogs, and I doubt that more than a few of them are doing so to conceal their offline identities. Rather, they're expressing themselves, just as they would by having more than one icon or by wearing different-colored socks on different days. Actually, using one's full name seems a bit odd, like referring to oneself as "Mister" while everyone else is using nicknames: the reasons I used my real name on ilX from the get-go are that I wanted to be better known and that there'd be a conflict of interest in my posting about music and rock criticism and other rock critics while concealing who I am. But as I said, most people who use screen names in my online worlds aren't doing so to suppress their identities. I often know their real names, and where I don't I could probably find out easily enough.
Yesterday I read Andrew Rosenthal in the NY Times saying "When I'm scanning comments (and I scan the comments on every Opinion section article that offers comment), I tend to read the ones with names attached and ignore the ones with screen names. I have a lot of interest in what John Krouskoff of New City has to say, and really none in what spatula187 (to make up one printable screen name) has to say." I realize there's a difference in posting at a high-profile place like the Times or YouTube or People etc. and posting on
*Of course, if you become better-known under your blog name, perhaps you're suppressing your actual identity when you use your given name.
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Date: 2009-04-17 05:02 pm (UTC)don't simply make free with other people's personal info, even if it's somewhat known to the locals...
Well, "personal info" covers a range here (Hirshman stuck with real name and faculty position, which are hardly private). But you can get a situation where insiders know and outsiders don't, e.g., I remember some people on ilX doing the online equivalent of snickering at a newbie who got Jess's gender wrong. Jess and Ethan switched monikers a number of times, and I don't think they cared about anonymity/pseudonymity in the least, but if they had that would have been their problem, because they had absolutely no right to it given that they regularly flamed people and started fights (often flames and fights of high quality, that I empathized with), in fact if someone published those guy's phone numbers and penis sizes it probably would have been justified. I think Kate Masonic Boom did care about her anonymity and pseudonymity and given her behavior she had no more right to it than Jess and Ethan did, though in general I also believed that she should be treated with kindness. On the ilX thread about Chuck's firing, and ex-New Times employee, writing under a pseudonym, called the New Times brass "bullies at the cocktail hour." I have what I think is a good idea who this poster was, and if I'd known for certain I wouldn't have outed him, since I was sympathetic with his viewpoint. But if I had been friends with Lacey et al. at New Times and hadn't been sympathetic to the poster I'd have no qualms about outing him. And I don't see where Lacey et al. wouldn't have had a right to identify the guy by name, if they knew the name, or why identifying him would become some violation merely because he was posting on a message board rather than writing for a publication.
A reason I might choose pseudonymity would be aesthetic: to play with tones of voice, to unleash something in my prose that would be less likely to happen under the name "Frank Kogan." And I suppose that someone who valued the writing would honor my pseudonymity. In WMS #6 I not only wrote under my own name but under "Al Capone" and "Kylie Minogue's Bra-Strap," though there was never any question that it was me. But here's the point: if, under my pseudonym, I'm critiquing the hell out of people, running cultural analyses etc., I don't see what right I have to expect people to honor my pseudonym. I might want them to, and if they admire the prose they might choose to, but I don't see why I should expect them to. Especially why should I expect the people I analyze to honor my pseudonym? It's not as if I'm a whistle-blower or that I'll get jailed for my opinions.
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Date: 2009-04-17 07:20 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-04-17 07:45 pm (UTC)(Some posters were suggesting that Hirshman was simply being clumsy. But anyway, I'm not particularly trying to come up with a "whose right?" in relation to hilzoy and Hirshman, though in this instance hilzoy seems to be the better writer/thinker.)