Whither Koganbot's LJ?
Mar. 12th, 2009 11:37 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
koganbotJust posted this on a thread of Lex's, but it obviously belongs here too:
My problem as I said to you last month is that I find it much easier to post on comment threads than on my own lj. (And I did this very strange thing on my MySpace for about a year and a half where I rarely used the blog but I updated my music interests every day with a "song of the day"; so I'd in effect post a new review every day and the previous day's would be deleted, but this wasn't going up anywhere that would alert anyone to the fact that this was happening, not on the blog or the bulletins (bulletins being the basic way that MySpace worked as a networking site). I don't know why I did this except to keep myself in practice after Xhuxk got fired from the Voice, though I'd collate my results and post a "best-of" on the MySpace blog every now and then, except I never got around to finishing those. (Note to self: I could repost them on my lj, and finish the ones I haven't gotten around to.))
But the point is that I've never been able to get my lj to act as an actual blog, no matter my resolution to do so, so it's never become the kind of attention center that Why Music Sucks was. Strangely I had much more impact putting out a twice-yearly (or less) fanzine than I ever did on the 'Net* - I created the equivalent of a message-board community out of the zine, pretty much, the community bopping around from WMS to Swellsville to Radio On to Tapeworm to Kitschener (and maybe some others I've forgotten about).
*Rolling Teenpop being a partial exception.
Whereas what I need to do is to use my lj for quick thoughts and links as well as for what I'm using it for now, and in essence make some of my responses their own new lj posts rather than being posts on other people's threads (my [previous] post to![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
koganbot had originated as what was to be a post on [Lex's] thread but then I decided that you [Lex] weren't going to be able to make much sense of a history of Frank's fanzine activities) - so somehow make it act like Rolling Teenpop and (I guess) whatever people use Twitter for (but without the word limit), or my email interchanges with Mark S. and Simon R. and Josh K. etc. c. 1999-2002 and to give it some of the flavor of atommickbrane or Krugman or Delong, the latter working out their ideas and having a mission but also linking to and copying other people's posts; so in effect they're working like Tumblr but they're not limiting themselves to what's on other people's Tumblrs and you can actually figure out who's saying what since they don't use Tumblr's way-confusing format. Lex, even if you're not interested in economics you should check them out for what they're doing right, in that they are part of an ongoing intellectual discussion in which people are taking account of each other's actual ideas (which is something most rock critics are incapable of).
In any event, I think you need to accept the lack of basic response just as I have to come to accept it, or else your posts and where you post them will skew towards what gets a response rather than what you need to say. (Obv., "gets a response" should be one factor, since responses can stimulate new thoughts; but for me, at any rate, it gets debilitating if it becomes the main factor. I need to accept that I'm fundamentally talking to myself at times, and to an occasional lurker or Googler, and to my biographers.) In any event, if you're going to have a conversation in one place that you think people at other places might be interested in, you need to alert the other people.
Also, I have no idea how "RSS" works; on my lj I get feeds to Kat's Tumblr and one of Tom's Tumblrs because they told me how to do it; I used to get feeds to Freaky Trigger except those stopped when it ran into technical stuff in late February. I'd like to get feeds to Dave's Tumblr and Tom's other Tumblr if they'd tell me how (assuming that they know how; if not, they should ask Kat, right?).
My problem as I said to you last month is that I find it much easier to post on comment threads than on my own lj. (And I did this very strange thing on my MySpace for about a year and a half where I rarely used the blog but I updated my music interests every day with a "song of the day"; so I'd in effect post a new review every day and the previous day's would be deleted, but this wasn't going up anywhere that would alert anyone to the fact that this was happening, not on the blog or the bulletins (bulletins being the basic way that MySpace worked as a networking site). I don't know why I did this except to keep myself in practice after Xhuxk got fired from the Voice, though I'd collate my results and post a "best-of" on the MySpace blog every now and then, except I never got around to finishing those. (Note to self: I could repost them on my lj, and finish the ones I haven't gotten around to.))
But the point is that I've never been able to get my lj to act as an actual blog, no matter my resolution to do so, so it's never become the kind of attention center that Why Music Sucks was. Strangely I had much more impact putting out a twice-yearly (or less) fanzine than I ever did on the 'Net* - I created the equivalent of a message-board community out of the zine, pretty much, the community bopping around from WMS to Swellsville to Radio On to Tapeworm to Kitschener (and maybe some others I've forgotten about).
*Rolling Teenpop being a partial exception.
Whereas what I need to do is to use my lj for quick thoughts and links as well as for what I'm using it for now, and in essence make some of my responses their own new lj posts rather than being posts on other people's threads (my [previous] post to
koganbot had originated as what was to be a post on [Lex's] thread but then I decided that you [Lex] weren't going to be able to make much sense of a history of Frank's fanzine activities) - so somehow make it act like Rolling Teenpop and (I guess) whatever people use Twitter for (but without the word limit), or my email interchanges with Mark S. and Simon R. and Josh K. etc. c. 1999-2002 and to give it some of the flavor of atommickbrane or Krugman or Delong, the latter working out their ideas and having a mission but also linking to and copying other people's posts; so in effect they're working like Tumblr but they're not limiting themselves to what's on other people's Tumblrs and you can actually figure out who's saying what since they don't use Tumblr's way-confusing format. Lex, even if you're not interested in economics you should check them out for what they're doing right, in that they are part of an ongoing intellectual discussion in which people are taking account of each other's actual ideas (which is something most rock critics are incapable of).In any event, I think you need to accept the lack of basic response just as I have to come to accept it, or else your posts and where you post them will skew towards what gets a response rather than what you need to say. (Obv., "gets a response" should be one factor, since responses can stimulate new thoughts; but for me, at any rate, it gets debilitating if it becomes the main factor. I need to accept that I'm fundamentally talking to myself at times, and to an occasional lurker or Googler, and to my biographers.) In any event, if you're going to have a conversation in one place that you think people at other places might be interested in, you need to alert the other people.
Also, I have no idea how "RSS" works; on my lj I get feeds to Kat's Tumblr and one of Tom's Tumblrs because they told me how to do it; I used to get feeds to Freaky Trigger except those stopped when it ran into technical stuff in late February. I'd like to get feeds to Dave's Tumblr and Tom's other Tumblr if they'd tell me how (assuming that they know how; if not, they should ask Kat, right?).
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Date: 2009-03-12 08:31 pm (UTC)I prefer getting comments on my tumblr, just for the fact that I automatically get email notifications there and don't on the lj feed. But what's even better than comments is seeing other people propagate the video saying 'hey everyone this is ZAWESOMEZ all must see it'. Alas this sort of video doesn't come along that often and I have to make do with mocking rubbish ones.
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Date: 2009-03-12 09:04 pm (UTC)I don't have a paid lj; Dave I think has a nonpaid but ad-supported account (and I'm thinking of doing that myself; that question might become a separate post), so I don't know if he can create whatever he needs to create so that I can then friend it; Tom I'm sure has a paid account and I was able to friend his Blackbeard Blog (I think you'd posted and said, "I'll show you how" or something) but I have yet to know how to befriend his Blue Lines Revisited (which of course I can visit in a snap just by going to it but that's different from seeing it while scrolling through my lj friends' posts).
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Date: 2009-03-12 10:22 pm (UTC)I use Google Reader for most of my RSS stuff, though - which is linked to at the top of gmail, so if you have a gmail account you have a Reader one. And that works really well for reading (but you have to click through to see comments). I read pretty much everything that isn't an LJ or Tumblr there. Including Krugman! But not DeLong. (My nerves can only take one econ-blog).
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Date: 2009-03-12 10:55 pm (UTC)http://tomewing.tumblr.com/rss
http://skyecaptain.tumblr.com/rss
...and so on. I generally only convert stuff to a lj rss account if I want lots of my lj-only chums to see it too - it's a hassle to change it if the URL changes.
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