Frank Kogan

Well, so far my "definition" isn't really very comprehensible, and maybe there's another thing I'm trying to do here, to potentially grow an idea that doesn't really exist yet. So for my own clarity:

What I'm trying to get at by saying "nowhere near bohemia" is that Crayon Pop don't come across as thinking they're resisting society or advancing or leading beyond or subverting society, daring to flout convention and to stand against ridicule from the normies. And at the same time I'm sneakily working in the idea of reactionies who draw on bohemian attitudes without always knowing that that's what they're doing (say, some but not all evangelicals, some but not all libertarians, some but not all survivalists, some but not all right-wing populists [some but not all left-wing populists, for that matter, who tend to draw on both bohemianism and anti-bohemianism, just like the right-wing populists]), and differentiating Crayon Pop from them, as well. So the crucial point of Crayon Pop's what-color-shall-I-paint-my-house-next is that there's no connotation of resistance or subversion or forward social adventure or backward social adventure, not even to the extent that the mainstream itself endorses resistance-subversion-progression. Nonetheless, there's adventure! (Assuming that I'm right about Crayon Pop.)

There are many other house painters as well, but most of 'em do connote resistance and/or subversion and/or progression etc. and couldn't evade the connotation even if they wanted to.* And I'm so ignorant of J-pop that I have little idea where Momoiro Clover are on the social map.

*Not that I think artists always should evade it. Prior to people settling into and institutionalizing their "subversiveness," the pressure to be subversive can be creative — and it doesn't always lose it's creativity even after it's become routine, and even if the actual subversiveness is nonexistent. But now I'm off on a tangent. Anyway, just want to emphasize that I'm not saying that Crayon Pop are automatically better for not being near bohemia (assuming I'm even right about their social location).

And then I don't know how strong bohemia is in Japan and Korea, anyway. I think it's as strong or even stronger than in America, but I wouldn't know.