Frank Kogan

Haven't gotten to the point with TREN-D where I remember their names.

Hope that Melanie hasn't left, since singers, even when they're very good, often don't go on to have viable careers once they leave the group. There are exceptions, of course:

My So-Called Life, during field trip to museum:

Teacher: The most important thing to remember is to stay with the group.

Angela: What is the big deal with staying with the group? What if Amelia Earhart had stayed with the group?

Ricky: Or Diana Ross?

Question. Are Vixx lacking in fame enough to qualify for No Tiers? And are they good enough? "On And On" is their only real brush with greatness, but I do like them, and the category does need some Y chromosomes.

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Also, do you think PungDeng-E are good enough? This is promising, though another song is the one that's getting pushed:

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Speaking of personnel changes, for the second time in their career LPG have completely changed their lineup. There are now nine of 'em. They call their album Filial Daughters' Generation, which may be a reference to another nonet. (I forget if I've been including LPG in No Tiers; again, they may be too lacking in nonfame; alternately, they're trot, which means it's questionable how much a part of K-pop they are.) Here's the best of their new ones, again not the single. Is a cover of this, by Wax, which is a reworking of Cyndi Lauper's "She Bop":

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