Sep. 10th, 2013

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Just came across J-Tong's Mohican And The Barefoot from last October: hip-hop but with rhythms that are hard rock more than they're R&B.* I like the album version of "개판" ft. Nobrain far more than the one from two years ago that gets streamed online, so here's a raw live clip of what I assume is the newer, better version:

[LIVE CLIP] SpeakShow9 Busan Tour 26. J-TONG - 개판


Question: Is there a lot of this rap-rock stuff in Korea, or is J-Tong the main guy?

*Of course, the people who invented hard rock in the '60s, the Stones and the Yardbirds most prominently, were saturated in R&B. That late '60s and early '70s groups like the MC5 and the Stooges were also saturated in R&B helped them to rock harder than most of their contemporaries. As did Miles Davis in the '70s, running together rock and funk and R&B and that other genre he's associated with (not to mention Sly, Isaac Hayes, Kool & The Gang, and a host of others). So I'm not saying that R&B and hard rock are opposites. But nowadays what's called rock and what's called R&B are pretty distant from one another (in genres like country the rock and the R&B do sometimes meld together, but they're rarely called rock and R&B); the broad area designated "hip-hop" is one place where rock and R&B do occasionally, explicitly rub shoulders.

Anyway, I've been arguing that over the last quarter century techno and acid house and rave more than rock have been playing the social role that rock once played.

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