Who Is A Bore?
May. 24th, 2009 08:53 amTom says that bores are the number one menace to online communities:
Online Communities: Fight The Real Enemy
I put some of my own thought in the comments. To elaborate here, I'd say, beyond the obvious point that dullness lies in the eye of the beholder, it also depends on context. If we're having a discussion of, say, whether birds evolved from dinosaurs, or whether the "hobbits" whose bones were discovered in Indonesia are a separate human species rather than being dwarf homo sapiens, then, if a creationist or believer in intelligent design joined the discussion to argue for creationism or intelligent design, that person would be boring in that context - because he has nothing to add to the discussion. For that matter, someone who used the conversation as a pretext to attack creationism or the idea of intelligent design would be just as boring, as would someone who engaged either of those two in debate.
But that doesn't mean that creationism or intelligent design are in themselves boring. Why people hold those views and what they're trying to do with those views is something I'd like to understand - they're not truly interested in birds and dinosaurs or the evolution of hominids, but that doesn't mean that nothing is going on that's worth paying attention to. And I'm more likely to understand people if they're talking to me than if they're not.
Hypothetically, a thread that contained discussion of both dinosaur-bird or "hobbit" evolution, on the one hand, and creationism/intelligent design on the other could be interesting on both counts, but I wouldn't expect this to happen in practice. The creationism convo either would be marginalized or would wipe out the other. But also, my guess is that the vast majority of people would, in practice, get more excited by the creationism/intelligent design fight than by the actual discussion of evolution. And even some of the people interested in the latter would be happy to be distracted by the fight if the discussion of evolution hit a dry spot or required concerted thought.
Online Communities: Fight The Real Enemy
I put some of my own thought in the comments. To elaborate here, I'd say, beyond the obvious point that dullness lies in the eye of the beholder, it also depends on context. If we're having a discussion of, say, whether birds evolved from dinosaurs, or whether the "hobbits" whose bones were discovered in Indonesia are a separate human species rather than being dwarf homo sapiens, then, if a creationist or believer in intelligent design joined the discussion to argue for creationism or intelligent design, that person would be boring in that context - because he has nothing to add to the discussion. For that matter, someone who used the conversation as a pretext to attack creationism or the idea of intelligent design would be just as boring, as would someone who engaged either of those two in debate.
But that doesn't mean that creationism or intelligent design are in themselves boring. Why people hold those views and what they're trying to do with those views is something I'd like to understand - they're not truly interested in birds and dinosaurs or the evolution of hominids, but that doesn't mean that nothing is going on that's worth paying attention to. And I'm more likely to understand people if they're talking to me than if they're not.
Hypothetically, a thread that contained discussion of both dinosaur-bird or "hobbit" evolution, on the one hand, and creationism/intelligent design on the other could be interesting on both counts, but I wouldn't expect this to happen in practice. The creationism convo either would be marginalized or would wipe out the other. But also, my guess is that the vast majority of people would, in practice, get more excited by the creationism/intelligent design fight than by the actual discussion of evolution. And even some of the people interested in the latter would be happy to be distracted by the fight if the discussion of evolution hit a dry spot or required concerted thought.