Feb. 2nd, 2009

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Just heard a public service clip apprising us of where to go for information about how to donate blood online.
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New Rich Boy single, "Drop," just dropped: is quite good, that slow Alabama voice of his against a sample that's as tight and twisted as the sample he used back in '05 on "Get To Poppin."

http://www.myspace.com/richboy
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We're almost up to 49 comments on the previous Kuhn Q&C thread, and after 49 the dear people at lj start collapsing responses so you have to click all over the place to see what anyone is saying, which I HATE HATE HATE HATE, so I'm continuing the discussion here. I'll be pasting in some comments from there into the comments here, so that I can comment on the comments (obv); and you can paste and comment as well. Anyhow, I'll start with this from [livejournal.com profile] petronia:

I wouldn't want to call the rise of abstraction in the visual arts (say) a "paradigm shift", so much as I would reserve the term for a change in an entire nexus of beliefs concerning originality, intellectual property, tradition, progress - a coherent example of which is not currently coming to mind.

I am only groping toward what I really mean here. Something along the line of: the appearance of abstract painting in Western fine arts is only a symptom, what really changed was the system of values underlying the artists' work, i.e. the definition of what it means to "paint" (or create art) changed, and thus the activity and its goals naturally broadened to take in strategies unavailable under the definition that previously held sway.


Concepts are contested in the normal course )

(What I just wrote under the cut assumes that "science" does things differently from nonscience, at least does things differently from what's done in conversations about music, but I want to ask if we're right to continue to consider sciences as fundamentally different from nonsciences, given that - perhaps - Kuhn has shot down the idea that a science can test its theories against a domain of facts that are independent of the theories.)

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