Date: 2009-07-29 04:00 pm (UTC)
Was he saying this stuff out loud -- about belafonte et al -- or just thinking it? (I mean in interviews and etc; obviously he was putting it into his songs, though the latter may well read differently with hindsight -- his praising someone unacceptable to folkies in say 1960 being read as absurdist humour or sarcasm?)

And of course there's a subtle difference between Dylan the Folkie saying "yay Belafonte" -- who was in the folk ambit, however commercially -- and "yay Beatles", as he would later

(not that i really diagree with this line of argument: the crackle of excited tension between the folk lyric, beat poetry and non-beat poetry is more overtly and undodgeably what eg the pop art people were doing, because it's made of words where their argument was made of images
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