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Frank Kogan ([personal profile] koganbot) wrote2007-12-22 05:57 pm

The New York Times is an idiot

William Rhoden in the New York Times argues that each generation is getting softer than the last. He says that Eli Manning's inconsistent and apparently unimpassioned play at quarterback, compared to his father Archie Manning's consistent greatness, is due to Eli's not growing up with the hardships that his father experienced.

Rhoden actually makes this argument. In a major newspaper. In the major newspaper. There is no hint of parody, or irony.

[identity profile] skyecaptain.livejournal.com 2007-12-23 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
Boggles the mind.

A friend of mine just recommended Lewis Bagby's article on Mikhail Bakhtin (on his "discourse typologies" focusing on Russian literature) from the early 80s. The main argument (in 20+ pages) seems to be that some literature has not only TEXT but SUBTEXT. And, what's more, sometimes an author might write one thing, but actually mean another.

An actual quote: "In literary dialogue, language occurs first and foremost as an aesthetic fact. Bakhtin's attention fell not on the word in and of itself, but on the word's relation to another word, utterance, context, message, or medium."

[identity profile] martinskidmore.livejournal.com 2007-12-23 10:33 am (UTC)(link)
I'd never heard of him or his dad, so I had a look on Wiki, and the son's win-loss record is much better than his dad's, who never had a winning season. Even aside from the fundamental stupidities elsewhere in this argument, and accepting that that one stat isn't everything, it does make this a pretty crappy example to symbolise an inferior generation.