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Frank Kogan ([personal profile] koganbot) wrote2007-07-05 04:41 am

Rules Of The Game #5: What's Wrong With Pretty Girls

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What's Wrong With Pretty Girls?

EDIT: Here are links to all but three of my other Rules Of The Game columns (LVW's search results for "Rules of the Game"). Links for the other three (which for some reason didn't get "Rules Of The Game" in their titles), are here: #4, #5, and #8.

UPDATE: I've got all the links here now:

http://koganbot.livejournal.com/179531.html

[identity profile] martinskidmore.livejournal.com 2007-07-05 01:10 pm (UTC)(link)
This intersects some with an article I wrote ages ago about Al Green's version of How Can You Mend A Broken Heart? - I talked there about auteurist ideas and genuine feelings and ideas that certain kinds of music come from the soul and others don't. Al wrote most of his own hits, and as a soul singer the default assumption is of authenticity and sincerity, but I think that is nothing to do with what makes that record great.

I'm not sure that thinking about class really helps us towards why the Beatles are revered and the Monkees are often dismissed. I think the idea that writing your own songs is important kind of started or at least was established firmly in the public mind by the Beatles.

[identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com 2007-07-05 01:48 pm (UTC)(link)
here's martin's tremendous article which he is too shy to link: everything they say about soul is wrong

i think to decouple class from contempt as per frank's argument you have to actually address the specific line of logic he uncovers in nathan's series of positions: which reveals reverence for the beatles as a kind of a red herring -- yes it's the quasi-grounding for the introduction of the "stand-in issue", but the actual issue is why is non-auteurship a shoo-in for the justification of a generalised dismissiveness

(bearing in mind when frank says class he doesn't "class" he doesn't simply mean what a simpleton marxist or a doctrinaire sociologist might mean)

[identity profile] dubdobdee.livejournal.com 2007-07-05 02:01 pm (UTC)(link)
on other words, yes it's almost certainly true that the vast success and popularity of the beatles totally changed the game but why was the world-that-wanted-the-game-to-be-changed drawn to THIS reason as a stand-in for the arrival of "better" cultural value (why for example was it not spotted as contrary evidence that such conditions didn't exist within soul)? (or apply to elvis, say?)

the issue of the control of the means of cultural production IS fairly old-fashionedly a class issue -- one of the things going on here is a scrim of aspirational identification being projected onto the loved object, and elements that threaten that ease-of-identification being demonised

[identity profile] martinskidmore.livejournal.com 2007-07-06 12:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Your first paragraph is something that particularly interests me, and I'm not sure I have an answer. I remember talking to a music teacher when I was a schoolboy in the '70s, and he was telling me about his music teacher ten years or so before making a big deal about the Beatles writing their own songs, about the sound almost classical skills on show, and so on. I have a feeling this might have been the first place in pop where a chunk of the cultural elite both liked what was being made and found their traditional way of discussing musical talent, i.e. a heavy focus on composition, found they could apply their paradigms with minimal adjustment and no great embarrassment to a big pop act - Sinatra, Elvis and so on were 'just' singers, and Louis Armstrong and jazz had taken their place a large step nearer that old High Art Music than pop long before.

On top of that, the general public were probably quite keen to latch onto anything that validated their love for pop music, that enabled them to regard it as something more than disposable crap, as something artistically worthwhile. The importance of composition takes a central role in this, as does judging artistes on their longer works - symphonies rather than short songs, LPs rather than singles - so we start getting more focus on the idea of the album, which had already been trickling in from jazz via people like Sinatra doing a concept album in the '50s, arguably several such (suites of thematically linked songs, anyway).

The authenticity bit that partly ties into writing your own songs and composing longer sets is basically the modern idea of what art should be like - it kind of kicks off from Van Gogh in 'fine art' (he is painting's Beatles!), from the modernists at the turn of the century in literature (Kafka is perhaps the iconic figure here)(and I hope I use iconic reasonably aptly!), and so on. The idea that inner necessity, a burning need that can't be denied by the marketplace, and so on, are what art is all about becomes part of Western Culture. It had already been applied to the tortured geniuses of classical music, and then to jazz (what's that story about someone asking Louis Armstrong "Do you want to be great or do you want to be rich?"?), and here was a partial opening for it in music (though the Beatles acted as if they were having the times of their lives, rather than being tortured, of course, at least until Lennon later on). This ties it all together: an auteurist view, sincerity, artistic ambition (most easily seen/shown in a concept album rather than a single) and all that, all towards the artistic status of a Picasso rather than the Monkees. Lennon certainly got that in the wide culture, and would feature high up in any poll for the great geniuses in the arts of the 20th Century (not that I'd vote for him).

I think all this makes it a lot easier for people to admit to huge admiration for Holland/Dozier/Holland rather than the Supremes, and maybe Xenomania rather than Girls Aloud*: the performers we see are regarded as actors moved by the auteurist writer-producers, like actors in a Bergman movie or some such, and of much smaller interest and importance. This seems to happen more easily with female performers: I deliberately cited the Supremes rather than the Four Tops - both were dressed and trained and so on by the Motown machine, both had their songs written and produced by the same people, but Levi Stubbs voice is credited with a depth of soul and passion that Diana Ross's never was. I can't think of any counter-examples where the boys were dismissed and the girls praised, which I guess is just the continuing state of the culture as a whole, rather than being much to do with anything specific to music.

* Sugababes are a slightly special case, in that they got big play for writing their own stuff early on, and that credibility boost has kind of stayed with them even when their hits are written and produced by Xenomania. Acts finding fame with their own material and then turning more and more to pro songwriters is something of a rarity.

Re: Auteur

[identity profile] martinskidmore.livejournal.com 2007-07-06 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, but how many uses of the ideas of auteurism have stuck with that? It's kind of what I am getting at in my Al Green piece when I say that I don't care how much of the thought and intelligence was Al's and how much was Willie Mitchell's.

[identity profile] martinskidmore.livejournal.com 2007-07-06 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I certainly remember statements, I think from Jagger and/or Richards, that the way the Beatles were seen made them feel totally pressured into writing their own songs, so I think that period totally supports what I was saying.

You're right that there are exceptions: the idea of writing your own material was never all that counted. It seemed to me more that rock acts felt they ought to write their own material, or most of it; and this became part of what rock was supposed to be; and the quality was subsumed into the genre, so a band that clearly sounded like they were part of the same scene as the Stones and all that could get away with not doing so.

I'm not sure the Monkees went both ways at once on their first few gigantically successful albums - there is the odd 'okay Mike, we'll include this song of yours' moment, but they are pretty straight pop until they decided to play their own instruments and all that. Yes, some tracks are fast and some slow, but I don't think there was any sense that they belonged to different genres. Obviously they are an extreme case, both in outselling the Beatles during the latter's highest artistic rep, and in being so blatantly, publicly manufactured.