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Frank Kogan ([personal profile] koganbot) wrote2008-05-14 07:42 am

Why are the left such chumps when it comes to the charts?

I'm urging [livejournal.com profile] dubdobdee to pitch and write a piece that he's long been contemplating: "why are the left such chumps when it comes to the charts?" So to urge him further I'm pasting in a slightly re-worded version of what I wrote on his thread, and I encourage you to contribute your own thoughts here. (I'm not saying anything that I haven't said better and at greater length before, but I think this summary might be useful.)

My thumbnail explanation of why the left are such chumps about the charts is that being "left" has evolved into a cultural identity rather than just a way of analyzing and attempting to change society -- not that being a cultural identity precludes doing analysis and changing society, or that there's anything wrong with having a cultural identity (inevitably when people come together for a common purpose they'll already have a lot in common outside that purpose and will get more in common), but the unstated movement in the left has been towards embracing music, ideas, and actions because they are ours* rather than because the music, ideas, and actions are good -- though of course the music is called good, it's experienced as good, and sometimes reasons are even given, and the reasons are usually terrible: the reasons tend to validate or criticize the music on the basis of whether we* approve of who makes it, how it was (supposedly) made, and whom it was made for rather than on the basis of what the music actually is and does.

Of course, the whole culture, not just the left, tends to do just the same, and the nonleftist analyses often lean left anyway (interestingly enough), though with the "politics" subdued. And my critique of the "left" is pretty much in line with the critique of academia and journalism that I made in my book (this critique could be directed at several hundred other professions as well):

"(i) presentation of self -- creating, maintaining, or modifying one's hairstyle, as it were -- is a way of thinking, but (ii) given a choice between maintaining one's hairstyle and thinking about it, my profession as a whole will choose hairstyle over thought"

*"our" and "us" not necessarily meaning you and me and our buddies anymore, since in this corner of the livejournal we don't particuarly extol liberal-left approved music, but really, there but for the grace of god go you, me, and my buddies, ya know? And the postgrad liberal-left is our political leaning and our cultural neighborhood, even if it's not quite our particular musical street. Also, "our" and "us" don't
totally explain why "we on the left" embrace hip-hop and blues and world music -- which is not made by "us" but is the sort of music "we" like, made by the sort of non-"us" that we project our romanticism onto. And there is a tendency for some lefties to validate pop by finding within it "modes of resistance" or by plumping for a "democratic catholocism of taste" or something -- again, not by the actual people in this corner of the livejournal, but by chumps on the left. And of course this sort of lefty can't comprehend that we like Britney because we think she's good rather than because we think our liking makes us anti-elitist.

Re: What *aren't* the left chumps about?

[identity profile] skyecaptain.livejournal.com 2008-05-14 06:36 pm (UTC)(link)
to me the schism IS the value

Totally, and when I'm feeling pompous enough to say things like "my general project," I'd also say that part of that general project is to live in that schism, because people go absolutely batshit in there (and, of more immediate importance to me, completely misrepresent the excellent music that's happening in what they consider to be a wasteland).

This isn't as true in other media worlds I dabble/live in -- the only people I find making salient critiques of Hollywood production, for instance, are pretty hard left, and their primary concerns are with, like, unionizing a global workforce. Talking about Along Came Polly's capitulation to the capitalist blahdyblah just isn't their primary concern (and the examples of possibility used in a book like Global Hollywood, which is pretty clearly a leftist analysis of the global Hollywood film industry) are pan-regional efforts, but no special emphasis is placed on what these pan-regional efforts produce, be it independent films or telenovelas.

Re: What *aren't* the left chumps about?

[identity profile] skyecaptain.livejournal.com 2008-05-15 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I would personally say that the schism is a myth created by the people complaining about board meetings and distribution agreements and commercial tie-ins, most of whom know nothing about those things anyway, and don't care to learn about them. I personally don't any conflict between the fact that music production is an industry and that music production is an art, but it's an implicit "conflict" in a lot of (superficial) dismissals of the music.

By "living in it," I guess I mean I'm trying to live in and jab out my elbows from within other people's perception of that schism, with better analysis and better facts. Operating, as a critic, on the aesthetic side of production while still caring about and understanding the biz side, and (by caring enough to investigate) not seeing any great contradiction in these terms. At least, not in any useful sense ("how good it sounds" versus "the problematic nature of its being made at all" tends not to actually arise, Paris Hilton's album maybe being the most galvanizing but also most obvious recent example). I think I've argued before that music production doesn't work like film production, in that the workforce itself is too specialized to use the same sorts of problematic labor methods that filmmaking does.

So to use a film as an example, if I like The Mexican starring Brad Pitt and Julia Roberts, it's hard for me ("as a leftist"?) to square my possible enjoyment and positive aesthetic analysis with the fact that its production wreaked havoc on a small Mexican village for no discernible reason. Or if I like Titanic, I'm not sure what to do with the Pacific fishing industries just south of the border its production demolished (even ten years later!). Titanic doesn't look like the destruction of a small local fishing industry, yet it is that, too. (Note: I've never actually seen The Mexican, only read about the bizarre water pump that was constructed for the American stars and then left to rot after production was finished, right in the middle of a small village that was using this for clean water until production ended).

But again, music production just doesn't work that way, and these aren't the kinds of arguments that anyone is leveling at Ashlee. And as for my last paragraph above, they also aren't the arguments they're leveling at the films that are actually doing it, even though (if they're actually leftists) they probably should. The music-related social arguments don't sync up with any "leftist" politics I'm aware of in the same way that a critique of Titanic genuinely might. And yet I would be tempted to locate plenty of Ashlee haters somewhere in the area of "left-leaning," i.e. accusing her of "red state" whateverism on that Ashlee thread, for instance (which is totally absurd), or denying her any credibility on principle because she's, like, a "pop tart" or something (the k-runkian line).

Re: What *aren't* the left chumps about?

[identity profile] skyecaptain.livejournal.com 2008-05-15 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
*problematic nature of its being made doesn't arise because it's not actually problematic when you think about its production for two seconds; i.e., isn't any different from any other major label production mode.

Is it worth it? Lemme work it...

[identity profile] skyecaptain.livejournal.com 2008-05-15 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Another way of responding to this would be to say that part of me, when thinking about modes of Hollywood filmmaking (many of the films that result from which I really enjoy), always tends to ask "well, was it worth it?" Meaning, is the system by which this film was made justified by how "good" the movie is? (For me, the answer is pretty much always NO if the question is legit. Which, to be fair, is hardly all the time, and my ready examples are limited -- Titanic is a really easy one to point to, or even something like Fitzcarraldo). It would be pathological, though, to try to use this "test" in all forms of consumerism, particularly in creative fields (as opposed to not buying factory-farm eggs or sweat shop labor-made clothes) -- film is just where abuses seem obvious and avoidable. To me, this is a leftist position; thinking Paris Hilton is a bitch not worth giving any more money is not. (And neither, for that matter, is thinking Mel Gibson is a bitch not worth giving more money -- which is something I strongly believe, and won't give him more money. But I also don't pretend that there is something "politically progressive" in this viewpoint -- my defense of Paris is based on that fact that I don't think most people can articulate very well WHY they think she's a bitch not deserving of any more money, whereas I think I can pretty easily make that claim of Mel...and what's more I can point to arguments in the actual films he's made, whereas when you point to Paris, you get a lot of agreeable dance-pop.)

Re: Is it worth it? Lemme work it...

[identity profile] skyecaptain.livejournal.com 2008-05-15 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
wow first parenthetical is spectacular. Ly awkward. I mean to say I enjoy plenty of Hollywood films, and know next to nothing about how they were made. I reserve the right to sneer at them when I do learn that information, but I also won't dismiss them on principle "because they're Hollywood."

Re: Is it worth it? Lemme work it...

[identity profile] skyecaptain.livejournal.com 2008-05-15 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I was amazed at how savvy and genuinely funny the show was! It's hilarious -- and now I think twice about anyone using that show as an "excuse" for disliking Paris. You should check out some of the first season online if you can.

Re: Is it worth it? Lemme work it...

[identity profile] skyecaptain.livejournal.com 2008-05-15 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Hm, I'm having trouble finding it too. I saw it in a hotel room with free cable -- there was a "Simple Life" marathon and I saw about four or five episodes in the course of two days. (Which must have been about three years ago, now that I think of it.) It's available on Netflix, but they don't have a "Play now" option (in which case I could just give you my username and you could watch it that way). But I'll let you know if I find anything.

Re: What *aren't* the left chumps about?

[identity profile] skyecaptain.livejournal.com 2008-05-15 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
That's interesting -- I'd think at least Scott Woods would challenge ye olde pop tart formula...