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Frank Kogan ([personal profile] koganbot) wrote2012-01-12 09:40 am
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Is there much couples dancing in K-pop?

Posted this over on the Jukebox, where I underrated "Trouble Maker":

It took me a while to get HyunA as a dancer. What I first thought was sloppy now strikes me as having a nice flow. She's no BoA or Min (and here) when it comes to footwork or arm-and-shoulder coordination, but she's getting more at ease.

In "Trouble Maker"'s final two performances (Trouble Maker have wrapped up this round of promotions), HyunA was about 50 degrees warmer than JS.*





I don't know if there's much couples dancing in K-pop, there being so few co-ed acts. I'll have to ask my K-pop cohort. I know there's interaction with backup dancers, and in the singer-rapper one-offs, but I doubt there's much Astaire-Rogers lovey-dovey.

*Mat and Sabina's chemistry discussion is here and here, if you missed it.

[identity profile] arbitrary-greay.livejournal.com 2012-01-12 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)
"One-offs" basically sums it up. Every so often Kpop throws up some special stage pairing popular idols together, and then remember why they don't don't it so often when all of the fangirl/fanboy backlash hits.
Miss A and 2PM
Wonder Girls and 2PM in 2008
SNSD and 2PM in 2009
Wonder Girls and Big Bang, doing swing dance together at 3:35
SNSD and Shinee, but only for the first minute or so. It was a dance bridge between their promoted songs.
f(x)'s Victoria and part of Super Junior
Infinite and Rainbow
Dal Shabet and B1A4, which produced so much fan backlash they had to issue a message asking the feuding to stop.

The major exception to the backlash are the participants in the fake-dating show "We Got Married." Then the fans seem to eat it up.
f(x)'s Victoria and 2PM's Nickhun
2AM's Jokwon and Brown Eyed Girls's Gain were such a popular couple that they released a duet. Almost a year after their final episode of WGM, they did a cover of Troublemaker.

[identity profile] arbitrary-greay.livejournal.com 2012-01-12 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
For the longest time I was biased against Hyuna as a dancer because of this performance, and all of the lists she was getting voted up as "Best female dancer in Kpop" for. Hyuna's babyface was not helping at all, and I get the impression that she was trying a little too hard for this performance because at that point 4minute was still a fairly new group proving itself. It also didn't help that she was being put up against dance prodigy and former BoA backdancer(darker pink tank just to the right of BoA) Gahee and SNSD's Yuri, who has more classically smouldering sexy looks and is SNSD's second best dancer, which alone puts her far ahead of most girl idols.
In Bubble Pop! and Troublemaker, however, Hyuna appears much more at ease. She's clearly the one in control there, and makes her mugging for the camera look so natural and carefree, with Hyuna completely secure in her sexuality and having fun with it. She makes it look easy to look sexy in the Bubble Pop! MV, in particular, and as you know, I highly appreciate that ability.

Of course, BoA's still the queen of ease.
Miss A's Jia has good flow, as well.

[identity profile] just-keep-on.livejournal.com 2012-01-13 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
At the expense of revealing that I'm totally out of the loop: Why is Hyunseung called "JS"?

There's something about Hyuna that turns me off - I haven't yet figured out what it is and it doesn't feel right to talk about her until I do. Hyunseung, though, I rather like, mostly because of his dancing (his lines~).

AG's already mentioned most of the co-ed couple performances between groups. I've been trying to remember if there were any on-stage co-ed performances in the early days, but I honestly can't remember. (Granted, I was limited to Music Bank back then.) Among co-ed groups, there was only one group who interaction with each other in the choreo, but I can't remember the name of the group now. They didn't last very long and I think their song was something like "Paparazzi" - I remember the opening of the performance started with a catwalk moment, with lots of "cameras" flashing and there was some well-placed hands and such.

[ETA] Aha! I knew Secret had worked with some of the boy groups during Shy Boy performances. They kept referencing other groups' choreo during the bridge, but actually had MBLAQ, Infinite and Teen Top (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhT65scD3I0) perform with them too :D
Edited 2012-01-13 16:02 (UTC)

[identity profile] askbask.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 11:46 am (UTC)(link)
This girl featuring on Huh Gak's ballad, whose rapping sounds quite a bit like Hyuna's, is credited with lyrics (together with the composers) on Trouble Maker (as well as this song). She's a member of Shinsadong Tiger's forthcoming girl group, whose lead single he WON'T produce (but instead his protege Rado will), and in an interview he pitched her as someone who could take control creatively as well.



Shinsadong is a clever guy. He talks up how they haven't spent years training together like other groups, how he's just let them get to explore on their own after signing with him, etc, getting a few good news articles out of it. I think his group can do well.