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Frank Kogan ([personal profile] koganbot) wrote2010-06-29 08:30 am

Knowledge is not an attitude

I said "Knowledge is not an attitude" over on my Tumblr. I really like that line.

[identity profile] skyecaptain.livejournal.com 2010-06-29 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Was hoping to see an extensive convo about this line, but instead I see you're all a bunch of CODE GEEKS.

Alignment problem should be fixed now.

[identity profile] skyecaptain.livejournal.com 2010-06-30 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
My favorite bit of that is the related point that KNOWLEDGE TAKES EFFORT. The idea that good music criticism takes work, and that some people demonstrably do more work (physically and/or intellectually) than others (and tend to, though don't always, do better music criticism than those who don't), moves us away from itself strawmannish "fairness" and toward something probably more productive. I can see how the idea, used poorly, could justify an attitude that says that (say) knowing more bands = "know more about music," but as long as we identify what rigorous intellectual practices look like, it's a useful thing to think about when judging what building knowledge really looks like.

I'd like to know where in music criticism you see something like Paul Krugman's anti-(inverse?) strawman (I like calling 'em "realboys"), crediting knowledge-effort where it isn't due.

[identity profile] skyecaptain.livejournal.com 2010-06-30 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
And I say that ("looking for realboys") because one thing a realboy does is force us to say, well, OK, these people are being credited with reasonable ideas they don't hold -- but what happens when you actually adhere to those (perhaps good) ideas? The conservative who actually held the positions claimed of them would probably be good and interesting thinkers. They probably wouldn't be called "conservatives," but what they're called isn't really the issue.

[identity profile] skyecaptain.livejournal.com 2010-06-30 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I'm using work fairly broadly here -- and anyway I thrive when I feel like I'm doing work! That is to say, I tend to have more fun when I'm working.