Frank Kogan

Not sure what you mean here; from the Jukebox thread a lot of the complaint about Ke$ha - at least a lot of Lex's complaints about Ke$ha - is that she's doing a boring old hat version of big dumb party

Oh that's easy (though there's no reason you should know what I mean there, I was just strafing aimlessly by that point in my rant); it came from Dave's Tumblr yesterday (though I'm pretty sure Dave didn't write it -- with Tumblr, I can never tell who wrote what half the time, which drives me nuts): "I hear people talking kind of anxiously about how the emptiness of her (persona’s) party-always lifestyle isn’t reflected in the lyrics, and I wonder why I never hear that about 3OH!3 or Kid Rock or Lil Jon." I wonder where whoever wrote that has been for the last several years, myself -- though now that I re-read the comment, it may not have been saying what I thought it was saying; seems to imply people want the party-always lifestyle to wind up in her lyrics more?? (And maybe in Kid Rock's and Lil Jon's lyrics more too???) Weird. I thought the persona came from her lyrics. And whoever wrote that is apparently reffering to what others had previously written, which others I haven't read. And I may well also be taking it out of its intended context. Guess the comment struck in my craw, and I wound up referring to it where it made even less sense than where I had originally seen it. Hard to keep all this stuff straight.