petronia.livejournal.com ([identity profile] petronia.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] koganbot 2010-02-01 10:29 pm (UTC)

holy crapola exceeded comment length

EDIT -- and I wrote ALL THAT without stating my core thesis somehow, which is that this

music critics don't know how to sustain an intellectual conversation, i.e., won't put effort into working out and communicating their own ideas and into understanding other people's and into following through on possibilities and problems of the various ideas

Is absolutely NOT the case in the community of chatterers who enjoy dissecting eg. the Harry Potter books, and why on earth is that? [insert above essay which tries to answer that 'why'] And can these strategies be imported either way across this apparently impregnable barrier I straddle in my online reading?

I linked agrammar on my LJ with an obscure-sounding callout, to the many ppl (mostly women!) I know who 1) have the dual depth of fan background I do but are alienated from music writing, or 2) do not want to wade into heavy race/gender/class type online debates despite being heavily involved in both media fandom and music fandom, or 3) have a stake in these debates but do not have the necessary depth of background on one or othe other side. Because I feel sometimes like a crossover conversation could synthesize around me, that the knowledge and the intelligence are there on my flist, but that the willingness isn't. Even on my own part (I do have to get a job, and soon XD;).



** Going back to our "dancing about architecture" exchange. Eg. I can say a huge part of the charm of the 2005 Doctor Who series is that it "sounds like the UK pop that I like," and I might be able to "prove" it by making a mixtape, but in my head this is a... synaesthetic gestalt... that would be very hard to lay out in words. I could state that both are vastly popular and continuously evolved expressions of the same culture, with much of a shared fanbase, and therefore could be expected to demonstrate similarities, and ppl would probably agree, but it would go nothing toward establishing what those similarities actually are when Doctor Who... mostly doesn't even have pop music in its soundtrack? And when it does, it's as likely to be American pop. And the UK pop in this paragraph doesn't mean all UK pop (it doesn't take in dubstep, for instance, although it does rave). /digression by way of example

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