What's very interesting in this is, per the (dumb) Azzerad comment about how "quiet is the new loud" (or whatever), the newbies are taking up their middlebrow jazzbo defensive stances. And the shut-out seems interesting, too -- Dirty Projectors v. R&B (as comparison point, anyway, not necessarily WAR) reminds me of something a jazz prof said once along the lines of "Herbie Hancock invented rock music," using the new (old?) ideal to say "even when we deign to play your game we do it our way, hence it is better." Which isn't giving indie-centralia any more false "power" or clout than, e.g., jazz had compared to rock at that time (commercially less popular, at any rate).