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Frank Kogan ([personal profile] koganbot) wrote2009-07-11 06:32 am

The Inventor Of Modern Pop

Moggy on MJ (Kids These Days): Except that this morning I've been listening to a 1Xtra tribute show and have realised a) my woeful lack of any kind of knowledge of his back-catalogue beyond a few very big hits and b) exactly how incredibly world-formingly important he was. It sounds pretty stupid but I had no idea that when people said he invented modern pop music, they actually meant he literally invented modern pop music.

Aptly enough, I was talking to my mother only a couple of hours before reading that, and she, having just heard some clips of Michael, said she couldn't hear in the music what was ever supposed to have been so innovative about it, so couldn't understand why he's considered to have invented modern pop music.

I said I was inclined to agree with her, since, while Michael synthesized elements in his work, you can't say that he invented any of its basic vocabulary.

Maybe this underestimates the inventive role of synthesis, but anyway, the story I would tell is this:

Michael reasserted the importance of gospel-based soul in the post-disco dancepop world (more the relatively smooth style of the gospel quartets and balladeers than that of the shouters and stompers, though his truncated yelps certainly drew on the latter), but he didn't create musical vocabulary in the way that, say, James Brown or Sly Stone or Miles Davis can be said to have created musical vocabulary. And postdisco dance music already used a whole hunk of gospel-based soul anyway, albeit more from the diva-shouter side (diva-shouter being another synthesis). The forward motion of music at the time of Thriller didn't seem to be Thriller but hip-hop and dancehall and electrofunk and techno and club music (other motions either had nothing to do with Michael, e.g. hair metal going glitter, or were so ongoingly pervasive that Thriller and Off The Wall can hardly have been said to be stimulating them or leading them: e.g., the integration of soul stylizations into countrypolitan and into Italianate and showbiz showoff pop and the integration of those types of music into soul/r&b; or e.g. the hard-rock guitar on "Beat It," which would only have been surprising to people who'd solidly ignored '70s funk). The actual task of working soul/r&b into that forward motion was undertaken by Prince in regard to synthpop and by Teddy Riley and the New Edition alums in regard to hip-hop. When Michael himself started working with Riley, he was playing catch up.

As I said, maybe this underestimates the role of his synthesis in "invention," and maybe without Michael having gone mega, r&b wouldn't be so pre-eminent today, but that's the work of a lot of hands, without Michael's necessarily being dominant.

[identity profile] sm-woods.livejournal.com 2009-07-13 01:17 pm (UTC)(link)
>>> But "Beat It" does seem to have briefly opened the floodgates for a more explicitly popwise (whatever that means) and crossover-viable rock-funk than had existed in the '70s -- Shalamar's "Dead Giveaway," Kool and Gang's "Misled," Philip Bailey's "Easy Lover" with Phil Collins," Teena Marie's "Lovergirl" all came out 1983-84. <<<

Would also add "Jump" by Van Halen, which always struck me as a synthesis of dance (synths) and hard rock perhaps made more permissible by Thriller? (Obviously, there's the Eddie connection as well.) Not that synths weren't present in some of VH's earlier tunes, and not that a lot of their earlier tunes weren't also quite danceable... I don't know, the sound of that song to my ears just seems to have Thriller all over it -- maybe something to do with how clean and sparkling the synthesis sounds? I'm kind of curious what impact Thriller had (if any) on other AOR records of the period. I've always assumed it did, but it's not my area of expertise. (I've heard and read over the years various hard rock people praise the record, like AOR radio mogul, Lee Abrams.)

[identity profile] sm-woods.livejournal.com 2009-07-13 01:20 pm (UTC)(link)
The thing that strikes me lately about "Beat It," relistening to it, is the beat, which has an almost Miami-disco feel to it, and it kind of (in an appealing disco-y way, I mean) sounds chintzy, or slight, at least during the intro. (It also reminds me of the Gap Band's "Dropped a Bomb" -- which similarly layers huge slabs of thickness over top, in their case synths rather than guitars.)

[identity profile] chuckeddy.livejournal.com 2009-07-13 02:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't know if I can cite specific "Beat It"-inspired tracks, but I wouldn't be surprised if Huey Lewis was listening to it before Sports, for one. Could also see Def Leppard, whose tastes were pretty omnivorous at the time; maybe Axl Rose, too. And Billy Idol. And ZZ Top, who judging from year-end Top 10 listening lists they gave Rolling Stone were definitely trying to keep up with the cutting edge of black pop and funk -- they seemed to be major Zapp fans, for instance. Though I've honestly always figured that the really big influence on the more synth-dancey end of mid '80s AOR (including "Jump" and Eliminator) wasn't an artist from the r&b/dance side at all, but rather the Cars. Maybe I should rethink that, though. (I'm sure lots of those bands were listening to Prince, as well.)

[identity profile] chuckeddy.livejournal.com 2009-07-13 02:08 pm (UTC)(link)
(I mean that list to be more post-Thriller than specifically post-"Beat It," btw, though obviously "Beat It" is the track on the album that rockers might've been most likely to gravitate toward.)